Wozniak, ever the straight shooter, admitted, "I think there are things you can say on all sides of it.. I'm kind of glad for the protection that I have for my privacy and for you know not getting hacked as much. Apple does a better job than the others."

But then he dropped the bombshell on tracking, "Tracking you is questionable, but my gosh, look at what we're accusing TikTok of, and then go look at Facebook and Google... That's how they make their business! I mean, Facebook was a great idea. But then they make all their money just by tracking you and advertising. And Apple doesn't really do that as much. I consider Apple the good guy."

When pressed about the proposed TikTok ban in the US, Wozniak was baffled,

"Well, one, I don't understand it. I don't see why. I mean, I get a lot of entertainment out of TikTok — and I avoid the social web. But I love to watch TikTok, even if it's just for rescuing dog videos and stuff."

He then called out the elephant in the room, "And so I'm thinking, well, what are we saying? We're saying 'Oh, you might be tracked by the Chinese'. Well, they learned it from us."

Wozniak, a staunch privacy advocate and EFF founder, pointed out the glaring double standards, "I mean, look, if you have a principle — a person should not be tracked without them knowing it? It's kind of a privacy principle — And if you have that principle, you apply it the same to every company, or every country. You don't say, 'Here's one case where we're going to outlaw an app, but we're not going to do it in these other cases.'"

He concluded with a jab at the political games, "So I don't like the hypocrisy. And that's always obviously common from a political realm."